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		<title>By: Digital Tools, Trends, Debates &#8211; Reading List Compiled by Dorothea Salo &#124; LILABRARY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Tools, Trends, Debates &#8211; Reading List Compiled by Dorothea Salo &#124; LILABRARY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; Resource review #5: Koha Blog The Hopeful Librarian</title>
		<link>http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/527/comment-page-1#comment-18491</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Resource review #5: Koha Blog The Hopeful Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Koha is that, with the right application of effort, you can make it do whatever you want it to. And in the true spirit of open source, the folks at the Nelsonville Public Library are sharing their efforts with the rest of the library [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Koha is that, with the right application of effort, you can make it do whatever you want it to. And in the true spirit of open source, the folks at the Nelsonville Public Library are sharing their efforts with the rest of the library [...]</p>
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		<title>By: regeniaec</title>
		<link>http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/527/comment-page-1#comment-6061</link>
		<dc:creator>regeniaec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 01:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They should be more careful while creating a opensource software. Many will try to attempt to steal their codes to use it for other purpose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should be more careful while creating a opensource software. Many will try to attempt to steal their codes to use it for other purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny Reiswig</title>
		<link>http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/527/comment-page-1#comment-5666</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny Reiswig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Echoing Jon Gorman 100%. Anything I produce in the course of my job is owned by the Regents, not me or my department.  And it can be a Byzantine process to figure out how and whom to ask for permission to open source something developed for the library and there is no guarantee it would be granted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Echoing Jon Gorman 100%. Anything I produce in the course of my job is owned by the Regents, not me or my department.  And it can be a Byzantine process to figure out how and whom to ask for permission to open source something developed for the library and there is no guarantee it would be granted.</p>
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		<title>By: We love open source software. No, you can&#8217;t have our code &#124; My Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>We love open source software. No, you can&#8217;t have our code &#124; My Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] We love open source software. No, you can&#8217;t have our code/ Dale Askey [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We love open source software. No, you can&#8217;t have our code/ Dale Askey [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wow, someone wants to publish me! &#171; The Bibliobrary</title>
		<link>http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/527/comment-page-1#comment-3992</link>
		<dc:creator>Wow, someone wants to publish me! &#171; The Bibliobrary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 17:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] one, the piece she mentions is an article in the open access Code4Lib Journal. It would make a mighty thin book. Beyond that, there&#8217;s the sheer inanity of asking&#8211;in [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one, the piece she mentions is an article in the open access Code4Lib Journal. It would make a mighty thin book. Beyond that, there&#8217;s the sheer inanity of asking&#8211;in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joann Ransom</title>
		<link>http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/527/comment-page-1#comment-1439</link>
		<dc:creator>Joann Ransom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great story - thanks for raising the issues. I work for Horowhenua Library Trust, a small public library system servicing a district of 30,000 in New Zealand.

We developed Koha (library management system) back in 2000 and more recently Kete in 2007 (a community built digital library of documents, video, audio, articles, weblinks, comments). Both of these projects have been released as open source and are doing very well.

We are not a wealthy organisation, and we must spend our IT budget prudently. Open Source has been fabulous for us. We have been happy and proud to release fully functioning starting points for both projects. We know what problems we need to solve but we need and want the brains and skills and vision of many librarians and developers and programmers to help us take the projects to the next step.

FOSS seems to me to be a no-brainer for public libraries; it fits perfectly with our ethos of sharing knowledge.

Thanks.

Jo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story &#8211; thanks for raising the issues. I work for Horowhenua Library Trust, a small public library system servicing a district of 30,000 in New Zealand.</p>
<p>We developed Koha (library management system) back in 2000 and more recently Kete in 2007 (a community built digital library of documents, video, audio, articles, weblinks, comments). Both of these projects have been released as open source and are doing very well.</p>
<p>We are not a wealthy organisation, and we must spend our IT budget prudently. Open Source has been fabulous for us. We have been happy and proud to release fully functioning starting points for both projects. We know what problems we need to solve but we need and want the brains and skills and vision of many librarians and developers and programmers to help us take the projects to the next step.</p>
<p>FOSS seems to me to be a no-brainer for public libraries; it fits perfectly with our ethos of sharing knowledge.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Jo.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Harris</title>
		<link>http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/527/comment-page-1#comment-1390</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great overview! 

As the director of a school library system, I have been able to establish an environment where using and contributing back to open source software is the expectation. I did this by meeting with the Superintendent and the Board of Education and explaining that without the open source Drupal framework, we would not be able to build and grow. I also took the Superintendent and our CFO through the General Public License (GPL) under which Drupal is released line by line to explain it to them. 

The CFO and Board were especially happy to learn that they retained the copyright on the code and could still sell the code/program/service for a profit while still meeting the requirements of the GPL by releasing the code. I think administrative misconceptions are another area that need to be addressed so they can help champion the cause for open source (and the sharing therein) if others are against it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great overview! </p>
<p>As the director of a school library system, I have been able to establish an environment where using and contributing back to open source software is the expectation. I did this by meeting with the Superintendent and the Board of Education and explaining that without the open source Drupal framework, we would not be able to build and grow. I also took the Superintendent and our CFO through the General Public License (GPL) under which Drupal is released line by line to explain it to them. </p>
<p>The CFO and Board were especially happy to learn that they retained the copyright on the code and could still sell the code/program/service for a profit while still meeting the requirements of the GPL by releasing the code. I think administrative misconceptions are another area that need to be addressed so they can help champion the cause for open source (and the sharing therein) if others are against it.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Ellis</title>
		<link>http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/527/comment-page-1#comment-1305</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kudos and thank you, Dale.  I have been voicing similar concerns, though not nearly as eloquently.  I also second Jon Gorman&#039;s addition.  

I should mention that contributions don&#039;t need to come in the form of actual code.  Testing, UI, design, and simple feedback are just as critical, but the infrastructure has to be there to be able to allow these contributions to make it into the &quot;eco-system,&quot; so to speak.  At Rutgers, we&#039;re just starting to use the Drupal Project module to supply the infrastructure.  It seems very promising.

I also agree that schools offering MLIS degrees need to include OSS development courses in their curriculum.  It&#039;s frustrating that they have not jumped at the opportunity to fill the IT gap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos and thank you, Dale.  I have been voicing similar concerns, though not nearly as eloquently.  I also second Jon Gorman&#8217;s addition.  </p>
<p>I should mention that contributions don&#8217;t need to come in the form of actual code.  Testing, UI, design, and simple feedback are just as critical, but the infrastructure has to be there to be able to allow these contributions to make it into the &#8220;eco-system,&#8221; so to speak.  At Rutgers, we&#8217;re just starting to use the Drupal Project module to supply the infrastructure.  It seems very promising.</p>
<p>I also agree that schools offering MLIS degrees need to include OSS development courses in their curriculum.  It&#8217;s frustrating that they have not jumped at the opportunity to fill the IT gap.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
		<link>http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/527/comment-page-1#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are a lot of types of libraries out there.  You seem to be focusing almost exclusively on academic libraries.  Public libraries often have whole other issues.  It might be a good idea to specify.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a lot of types of libraries out there.  You seem to be focusing almost exclusively on academic libraries.  Public libraries often have whole other issues.  It might be a good idea to specify.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Gorman</title>
		<link>http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/527/comment-page-1#comment-1299</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d add one more: Lawyers and University control.  


At least for some, various IP offices on campus seem to be treating any software developed to be a possible revenue stream.  The odds of actually getting permission to release software as open source if it has any commercial benefit is small.

This leaves the libraries who have developers stuck with trying to create something that&#039;s not successful enough to be noticed but still share or to run the risk of being noticed by people who probably have more pull in the institution than them.  (If it&#039;s a big research university).  It leads to a type of chilling effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d add one more: Lawyers and University control.  </p>
<p>At least for some, various IP offices on campus seem to be treating any software developed to be a possible revenue stream.  The odds of actually getting permission to release software as open source if it has any commercial benefit is small.</p>
<p>This leaves the libraries who have developers stuck with trying to create something that&#8217;s not successful enough to be noticed but still share or to run the risk of being noticed by people who probably have more pull in the institution than them.  (If it&#8217;s a big research university).  It leads to a type of chilling effect.</p>
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